Wenda
Harris Millard '76 Interviewer: David Kyle '00 |
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Wenda Harris Millard is the Executive Vice President for DoubleClick Media, an Internet advertising company that does work for Web Publishers and Web Advertisers. She has been in publishing for over two decades, and joined DoubleClick in 1996 when it was a startup company. Her awards and distinctions are numerous: she is a recipient of the Women at Work Broadcast Award, the IABC Award of Excellence, the AAF Crystal Prism Award, and a was named one of the "i20, " a honor given to the twenty most influential executives in interactive media, among other distinctions. She has earned her MBA from Harvard University, is a Trinity Alumna, and sits on the Trinity Board of Trustees.
Can you tell me a little about the "Archer Lane Scoop" and how you
became interested in the field?
Youve heard the expression that some people are born knowing what they want to do.
For some reason, I knew I wanted to be in the media. I started the "Archer Lane
Scoop" at age nine and was the publisher, editor, and chief bottle washer. I then
went on to be editor of my high school paper and yearbook, and when I came to Trinity I
pursued any opportunity to write. I was editor of the Tripod and editor of the literary
magazine. I created a newsletter called "internship news", which told stories of
other Trinity students who were pursuing interesting internships. So I was feeling
entrepreneurial leanings very early on in the media.
What does a executive VP/ general manager do? What would a typical day be for
you?
Its intense, and the business, because of the Internet as the
advertising medium, is about sixteen hundred days old. The business can feel like it
changes from morning to afternoon. My day is spent primarily talking with the sites that
comprise the Double-click network, we represent hundreds of sites around the world to sell
advertising. So Im talking to folks from Dilbert, or Macromedia, or Modern Bride or
Teen magazine, who are part of our network. I help them understand how to derive the most
benefits from their online products. I also talk to marketers, whether its people
from IBM, Proctor and Gamble, or General Foods, or General Motors, about how to make their
advertising on the web work.
Describe one experience which keeps you happy with where you are.
Probably helping people, like web advertisers and web publishers, understand how this
Internet medium can answer some of the greatest advertising questions of all time, and
help people market their goods and services in a way that theyve never really been
able to.
You joined DoubleClick as the 14th person, and now its looking to have
around 2,500 people- how would you say that your particular job factored into the growth
of DoubleClick?
Its very true that the barriers to entry in the business are very low, so a lot of
people can get into the advertising business. One of the things that have differentiated
DoubleClick and caused it to be successful is the fact that we execute well. There are a
lot of terrific ideas out there, but you have to be able to execute. As for my role in it,
one of the smartest things Kevin Connor did (our chairman and founder) was hire people who
knew things he didnt know. He hired me for my expertise in advertising and media. He
hired other people for their expertise in technology and data, and HR, and marketing. But
the expertise that we brought to it, and the fact that we are people who know how to
execute on a great idea, I think really differentiated DoubleClick. There are so many
wonderful ideas and so many easy ways to get into the Internet business, but execution is
everything - how well are you building the business, how effective are you at building the
business. To get an idea is just that, and an idea does not a business make. You need to
be able to grow a business, and understand who your customers are, what youre going
to do for them, and how youre going to build a relationship with them.
What do you consider the best way to stay current in your field?
Its hard not to stay current, because theres no past, because the industry
is so new. Its not the kind of industry you study; theres no history and
its four years old as an advertising medium. Its very hard to look back or
towards the future because we are still at the beginning stages of this medium. We can
only speculate on how the user will relate to the medium or what the medium will look
like. We are just about to be assaulted with wireless communications, and we look at the
computer today, the television, the palm pilot, telephone, we will very soon have devices
in our lives that make the Internet ubiquitous. The Internet will be everywhere, you will
be able to connect from any platform, from any place. So to stay current with the trends,
it doesnt cost a lot to read on the web, in print, to attend industry conferences,
to socialize with people who are in the Internet who are making a difference. One of the
things that Kevin OConnor and I do is host a dinner, called "DoubleClick off
the Record". We do this in different cities throughout the country for different
presidents and chairmen at advertiser companies, marketers and agencies. We engage them in
a literary off the record conversation, never attribute anything they say to them, and we
dont invite the press. We get into discussions about whats going on in the
Internet, what things are going to look like in three to five years, and whats
getting in our way of realizing what it could be. So we have a lot of opportunities as a
business to stay very current with peoples thinking and with trends. We also are big
educators- everything in the media, by the way, revolves around food. I have a dinner and
breakfast series called "Whats Clicking" which gets very specific- we have
series like "Whats Clicking in Travel" and "Whats Clicking in
Entertainment". We run around the country and help educate our customers about
specific trends in vertical categories. So we do a lot in terms of educating, but we also
get educated a lot by our customers, so we get a real one-to-one exchange of information.
Where do you see the Internet going in three to five years and what possible
barriers might your company encounter?
I am a believer in convergence of media and not a convergence of a unit. By that I
mean we are not all going to sit on a couch and stare at a big box that is going to mean
everything to us. I think convergence of media means being able to get messages across, to
receive Internet communication, whether its content or advertising on a
cross-platform basis. As I said, I believe the Internet will be ubiquitous, it will be
everywhere, at all times. Wireless will be everywhere. So Im a big believer that
thats going to happen very quickly. Some of the things that are getting in our way
are the obvious band with, but thats going to be over so soon that its almost
a non-issue anymore, its simply a matter of time. The issue of privacy is going to
stunt the pace of growth, its not going to stunt the growth overall while consumers
begin to grapple with whats really going on in advertising and marketing. Its
terribly confusing out there now, and theres a tremendous amount of misinformation.
Its very consuming if you are a user of the Internet to understand if youre
being tracked or whos doing what with that information.
Youve been heard to say that to have gotten where you are now, you need
to have an entrepreneurial ability. What are some of the qualities a person should develop
to have this skill?
Entrepreneurs are self- identified. If you are an entrepreneur, you know it, you can
feel it. It is absolutely important to have real faith in what your idea is, a very tough
skin not to let things get in your way, and keep your vision very clear and focused on the
end game. Entrepreneurism is so alive and well in this country that you can be an
entrepreneur inside anybody elses company. I consider myself an entrepreneur inside
this large and publicly held company. To be one means to understand that its not a
game of permission- you take the ball and you run with it. You make things happen,
and when you do that, most companies will reward you well. If youre taking the ball
and scoring touchdowns and not getting rewarded for it, then leave that company.
Do you have any recommendations for students about activities or certain
internships they should do or experience they should try to pursue in they are interested
in the field?
One of the most important things for students to do is to try and get the experience so
you do have a feeling of what its like to work in an advertising agency, whats
it like to work in a Internet company, or anywhere that students can get experience in
fields that look interesting to them. Doing it early on is important, and can also be a
selling point later when interviewing. People are looking for demonstration of commitment
or interest, and in our case in the Internet, its all about passion. People in a
hiring capacity want to see that. So its really beneficial to the student not only because
he or she is learning about what a day in the life might be like, but its a major
selling point that youve demonstrated interest and youre very curious about
learning, and youre committed to pursuing a career in a particular area.
Could you describe the top three strongest qualifications of a candidate in an
entry level position?
Passion is a big one. We are looking for people who are passionate about our business.
Second of all, we are looking for athletes, and I dont mean people who are involved
in sports. Im talking about people who are winners. They are the people who lead in
the classroom, on the field, and in the social circuit. You can tell a winner. You know
who wants to win. Notice I didnt say "people who are trained in..."
Its not necessarily about the specifics. I dont necessarily care if someone
was an Art History major, an English major, or a majored in a field really unrelated to
what Im going to hire. Im looking for athletes, and for people that have
demonstrated a passion and commitment. This also assumes that were dealing with a
person of a high intellect, someone whos very smart. Were not necessarily
looking for courses, we will teach you everything you need to know. Were looking for
people who are going to win, who are going to take the ball and run with it.
Each industry seems to develop a particular culture. For example, the computer
companies tend to dress more relaxed. Is there any customs or things a student entering
the Internet industry should look out for?
Yes, I think that the Internet culture prizes speed. Speed kills if you dont
have it on the Internet. If you were going out to lunch, say on an interview, or you were
spending some time with an Internet company, people are looking for the quickness of your
mind. Everything happens quickly on the Internet. Whereas if you are interviewing with a
consulting company, they are looking for how thoughtful are you. That is not at all to say
that the Internet is not at all strategic- its very strategic. But theres a
nimbleness and an agility of the mind that is highly prized on the Internet. To listen
incredibly attentively to whats being asked and to hit it dead on is important. If
its the Internet youre going after, students have to understand that people
love being in this business. I dont know much about any other business besides
media, marketing, and advertising, but Im not sure that everyone who works in
insurance is passionate about insurance. Maybe they are, I dont know that. But
people who work on the Internet are passionate about that industry. They expect you to
demonstrate that same kind of interest and passion. So an interview with an Internet
company is involved, it's almost physical and not a laid back situation. People are
looking to see that you would kill to join their company because you just love the
Internet and the company in particular.
Whats the working hours like for a person our age at such an Internet
company?
The Internet is definitely sixty to seventy hours a week, but what happens is
its not required- we have trouble getting people to stop working because people are
so in love with it and so fascinated with it that people just naturally work sixty to
seventy hours a week, and its not something that you also graduate away from.
Ive been working over twenty five years and I still working incredibly long hours
and passionately and late at night and weekends wherever I am, but its not because
someone wants me to do that other than me, I want to do that. Its not for the
thin-skinned- you are growing company within an industry thats hardly born yet so
hard work is absolutely part of it. So again, people want to be in this industry, and
theyre there because they love the work.
When youre out on your own and cultivating your own business or project,
more often than not youll work twice as hard to get things going. Are there
opportunities at a company like DoubleClick that allow a person to feel like theyre
on their own in an entrepreneurial sense?
The first thing is in your compensation. Every single person at Doubleclick gets stock
options. So youre not only important, you own the company. You are going to be a
part of that company, because when you exercise your options you are a shareholder.
Thats very important. The first thing that happens when you come to DoubleClick is
that you go to something called "Clicker Camp" and that is an intense five day
training program that gets you ensconced in our business. Thats the first sign that
were going to invest in you and make you very smart about the Internet. Then we have
something called "DoubleClick University". We can do that on-line, or take
classes, but we require that you take 80 hours a year of training, so that you can
learning pretty much anything you want to learn about the Internet. Its an
extraordinary move, most companies will not train that way. But we make the investment in
our folks so that they end up being the smartest people on the Internet. We also get a
huge return from it, because people dont leave our company. Were investing in
them, were letting them be successful. Its very non bureaucratic, its
not hierarchical, and that is relatively typical of the Internet- it does not prize
anything but merit. So you could be 22 years old, and walk in there and be brilliant, and
youll be allowed to be brilliant. You don't have to climb step by step.
What kind of higher education would a new person to the Internet business look
for further on down the road?
Thats a very interesting question, and also difficult to answer right now. Ten and
twenty years ago, an MBA was far more prized in general in many different industries. The
reason for that, is that at a company like DoubleClick, your MBA is your employment. The
people who come to DoubleClick stay there. We move people all over the country. I had a
young guy who worked for me as a marketing director who moved in from New York to open up
the Japanese DoubleClick operation, and then moved into Australia to open up that
operation. We sent five people to Ireland, others to the UK, and others to France. We move
people all over the world. They get international degrees, if you will. Theyre
getting their MBA on the job. Whats very interesting to me is the number of people
who come to me between the ages of twenty seven and thirty four and say that theyre
at prime time for their MBA, and ask me whether they should get it. And the question is,
in this world, where your getting your MBA and degree in international relationships on
the job, its a very tough decision for to help somebody make. There arent that
many industries where your going to get it all by staying there and growing with it. So
its not measured step by step. Were inventing it. The ones who thrive in it
are those who just go do it. For people who are entrepreneurs, its music to their
ears.
Do you have any last words of advice for those looking ahead or those about to
leave Trinity?
Try to find something that you really like to do. Ive been doing this for twenty
five years, and I cant wait to get up in the morning. Im pretty lucky. They
call it work for a reason, its not play. Try to find something that you really
enjoy, and thats when your going to be very very good at it. The other thing I would
say is use your resources, your Trinity connections, anything that you have, because
theres no reason why your not going to get the job that you want, but you need to be
smart about it. Dont be shy about asking people for help, its absolutely worth
it. But find something to do that you would absolutely love.